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Mon Jan 08 2001

The time has come for a consideration of something we thought wouldn't happen... But the signs are all around that the business model of the Free Web is unsustainable and possibly it isn't here...

An article in The Register sums up a couple of weeks of articles we've been reading about the revenue stream from advertising.

To be quite honest, the revenue stream from advertising is non existant and getting slowly worse. We are doing somewhere around 4 times the advertising hits we did this time last year and we are earning LESS than we did in October 1999. We've heard lame excuse after lame excuse from the ad banner providers, about 'well its the Millenium Bug got everyone jittery' (thats a true quote from one of them at the beginning of 2000!).

Quite honestly, our dream of running a number of websites as our fulltime job is evaporating real quick. This means we still have to work to feed our families and if we're doing 40+ hours a week in a real job, the time for doing this is a lot less. Wanna know how much revenue we pulled in last month for all of the hits we got? I'll tell you. Around $80. Deduct server fee's of $355 and you see where we are.

You might say wow, compared to the millions I've seen dotcoms spending thats nothing. But we are not a dotcom. We've never had cash to literally burn. In fact the cashburn of the dotcoms is exactly why we are in the position we are in, but thats an aside.

So what are the choices? Well, we could continue as we are, spending nearly $300 a month on our hobby (which DearDiary is), and as some hobbies go that isn't too bad really... We could close it all down and cut our losses, which we don't really want to do even though we could keep our diaries on other free sites. Or we can change our business plan, and adapt to the changing fortunes of the web world.

The sad fact is, that we are all too aware that most people want something for nothing, and why wouldn't they? I know I do! But I also know that if I use something a lot and feel the authors deserve some recognition, some payment for it, then I am more than happy to pay some small fee for using it.

Shareware springs to mind. You try some software for 30 days and if you like it, you pay a moderate (sometimes stupidly small even!) fee to continue using it. Getright an excellent download manager, and Becky! an excellent Email client are but two examples of software I have recently 'registered'.

So, what are we contemplating?

A subscription mechanism. Basically. We're presently simply asking for your opinion. We do not have any concrete plans in place. Do not write to us and flame us, you'll be ignored. But please DO write to us with something constructive to say. The sums are not finalised, (possibly between $15 - $30 a year?), the benefits of subscribing are not yet finalized but one thing is for certain, a subscriber will see no banner ads!

You know, at $15 a year, we only need 10 people each month to register and we suddenly double our income... Its still not enough but it'd be a whole lot closer :-)

So, please write to us with your thoughts. How much, for how long. How would you want to pay (credit card, micropayment, paypal)? A yearly subscription, monthly or only when you use it? Should readers have to pay as well as writers? Other features we could offer to subscribers over and above non subscribers?

If you'd like to see our rationale for this, there's some links here;
CombatSim.COM goes subscription based, and Dougs (who's site admin and setup sounds remarkably similar!) reasoning behind it. Also this article from Jack Nielsen indicates that more and more places on the web will have to take up this sort of business model in order to survive.

In reality, this model is exactly what we have already in the real world. Its rare that you can get free subscription to a magazine, and only then if the advertisers are advertising enough in it! What we are offering here goes beyond that. It would give you the moral choice of paying or not...

Please send your comments to [email protected]

Steve and Matt.
Matt and Steve. (Just in case he gets mad for me putting my name at the front!)

5 Comments
  • From:
    Witchgrl (Legacy)
    On:
    Fri Jan 19 2001
    Although I myself would not have much concern with paying $15 or so a year to use the diary, my concern is for those who use this as a "therapy" but are too young to be able to afford it. For example, there are teens who keep diaries here and record things that the people in their lives have no idea about. By imposing fees, some of these kids would be forced to reveal their diaries to people...which would defy the whole principle for them (one example is mouse14, she talks about many things that she has not shared with anyone in real life). This is just a thought. I know you all have to make a living...but this is something to consider before you start charging for this.

    Okidoki...just my 2 cents.

    amy

  • From:
    Damselita (Legacy)
    On:
    Sat Jan 20 2001
    Just a note to keep you in rememberance...regarding the incentive's program contemplated: Do you have to keep up with all the recording of who introduced DD to whom, and so forth? You want to keep down the busy work, right? Soooo, I don't know how worthwhile this portion of your otherwise sound thinking would be.
  • From:
    ActorMatt (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Feb 06 2001
    It appears to me that with the number of other Free Diary sites out there.

    (Diary-X and Diaryland.com) Who both have great layout templates, (and great HTML flexibility) you will lose most of the diarys, which will decrease flow to deardiary ...

    It appears charging your diary owners will cause a slow death.

  • From:
    RiseAboveIt (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Feb 06 2001
    I agree that charging the authors to write may backfire on you, leaving you with no journals to charge access for. I do agree with you however that this a great site and a fee would not be entirely out of the question for viewing other peoples diaries. It's like a dating service, in a way. Most all dating services let you create an ad for free, menaing they get a lot of content for free. But the make interested parties look at a little sample, and if they like it, they pay to get in contact with the person. Maybe a business model like that would be more appropriate.
  • From:
    Slavboy (Legacy)
    On:
    Thu Feb 15 2001
    The only thing that bothers me about paying for access to this site is that I would be essentially saying, "Here's some cash, now let me create content so others can log on and create content and possibly get you more cash so others can log on and create content and..."
    If I wasn't creating content, then, yes, this would be analogous to a magazine subscription. But this puts it in the realm of a vanity press, where I believe I can't get my work published any other way, so I fork over coin to get my work published, if not distributed or admired by millions.
    Not that I'm saying you guys don't deserve to get your bills paid. And that this is probably a sad trend towards a pay-enhanced web. And I'm not saying that I want to get paid by you for posting my drivel.
    Still. I still feel weird about paying money over, and I need to think about it.