About TURN.
Tue Jul 31 2001

As they say in the army.

OK, the trial period failed. Basically because there's only three of us, and we can't keep up with whats going on where and we haven't any intention of trying. We're fed up of trying to mediate between parties when none of them are innocent.

We can't keep up with rewriting rules and writing DD1 entries to a minority of less than 10 people when there are 39 people on the notify list and over 10,000 diarists on the site, most of which we have never heard of because they never cause any trouble.

We can't keep up with people taking the spirit of our acceptable use policy and pulling it to bits to find holes, then using those holes to write about people.

We can't keep up with the circles of people who are this diary and that diary and making comments under this name and that name.

We not only can't keep up, we can't be bothered any more. We deal with DearDiary.Net for one reason, because it was fun. The abuses lately have made it not be fun, and with that in mind we had a meeting the day before (in email) to decide where we were taking it. The options were the same as before (listed here) and we decided that the deletion policy just isn't working.

People can create new diaries faster than we can delete them. The internet being what it is means we can't actually stop anyone using the service. And we'd basically set a challenge for the abusers to see how far they could go.

So what does this all mean?

Basically, as of now, unless you are a lawyer, do not mail our abuse address. It will be ignored. We can't keep up with you anyway. Sort it out amongst yourselves.

I know this decision will offend some people, but we're spending WAY too much time babysitting less than 10 people on this site when we should be concentrating on improving it for the 10,000 people who use it sensibly and play nicely.

The legal rules will still be upheld. You risk prosecution if you write things that are illegal (not from us, but this IS a public forum, remember that when you write). And you potentially risk legal action if you slander people or name them, but thats your problem not ours. Think about what you write before you write it, you could just be opening a can of worms for yourself.

But as of now, we are not getting involved in your fights any longer. Thats all.

To the >10000 diarists, who we've never received any kind of complaint about, please accept our apologies for troubling you and for making it sound like we had a problem with you too. We dont and never did. We also hereby apologise for having lost the motivation and time necessary to improve this site for you. That's about to change, we're reprioritizing....

18 Comments
  • From:
    Pringles (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    Hi, I can certainly understand the frutration of dealing with it all. Can you at least consider doing away with the "non atomic user" sign in option? That would stop probably 90% of the crap. A person can allow only safe comments only to find themselves trashed in an anonymous comment elsewhere. At least by making folks sign in to write their comments a person knows WHO to discuss it with, right?

    Its just a suggestion. *shrugs*

    Have a nice day
  • From:
    Sweetstar1974 (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    I can totally understand that! I'm exasperated and I don't even know whats going on! *grin*

    Hang in there, there are many of us who appreciate this site and what you've done with it! :-)
  • From:
    Waterlilly (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    Sorry you guys have had to put up with so much crap. I hope this decision makes the future of DD a lot less stressful for you :)

    ~*Mary
  • From:
    Buggie (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    *gives u all a standin ovation*

    Well...
    Unless ppl are prepared to pay for childcare...
    Nappy changin...
    Bottle warmin...
    An potty trainin...

    Why should u babysit?

    *grins*

    Sounds all good n fair to me :o)

    Love buggie :o)
  • From:
    Cutypops (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    I agree with Pringles. The service should be for registered users only. I have had problems with people slagging me off on a diary, but I just give as good as I get!
    Keep up with the good work!
    Cutypops
  • From:
    ShadowRose (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    I completely understand your frustration and disgust. I'm sorry you've seen and been exposed to the worst in human elements. I appreciate this site and have made some wonderful friends. Thank you for all the hard work!
  • From:
    Miraclewhip (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    I'd agree: Unauthorized Comments should probably go. It's bad having people backstab you; it's intolerable having them impersonate you, running around making insults, and making you enemies.

    You have made a good decision, for your own sanity and the sakes of your families, in stepping out of the Sandbox Monitoring Role.

    Can we expect the ban on Defensive Parody diaries to be lifted anytime soon? :)
  • From:
    Serenity (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    in light of past events, I am quite stunned that it took you this long. I love this site. I don't want it to go away. But I want it to be fun for you guys, too.

    Good for you regarding the stress.

    _\m/
  • From:
    Candle (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    Sounds good to me, guys! I don't blame you one bit. I'll be anxiously awaiting news on the improvements you mentioned. Keep up the great work. I love DD.
  • From:
    Stormangel (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    A lot of the stuff that has been going on here is very childish, and if the people concerned cannot sort these things out for themselves then how on earth do they cope out there in the real world. I for one, would still like to have unauthorized users comment in my diary because I advertise this site a lot around the internet, and I don`t think people should have to make an account if they just want to leave a comment for someone. I have had lots of nice comments from people who have just popped into the site after seeing it on my yahoo messenger profile.
  • From:
    StillMyst (Unauthenticated) (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Jul 31 2001
    This is good news for me...
    I'm glad I'll be able to comment again...
    I was thinking of starting a new acct just so I could.I do miss having a diary here,great site.
  • From:
    Atlas (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Aug 01 2001
    I've often felt that this deardiary1 diary was a parody of my own - but I didn't want to report it because I actually liked it.

    I feel safe in knowing that now it won't be deleted.
  • From:
    SophiaGreen (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Aug 01 2001
    I'm sorry this cool, fun site has become such a headache for y'all. Do what you need to do- back off, just deal with legal and technical stuff, maybe read a few nonstressful diaries and remember that there's 9,961 people having a pretty good time out here thanks to you.
  • From:
    Sugardancer1007 (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Aug 01 2001
    Applause, Applause, Applause. **clapping hands until they hurt**

    Its really too bad that it came to this. I know that you guys were trying to do something to protect people. I, too noticed that there were a few that still continued to abuse the system. Well, I for one, am appreciative of your time with this site as it has helped and amused me to no end. I don't blame you for finally becoming disgruntled with the whole situation.

    Kudos to you all.

    Have a good one and take care...
    Sugar
  • From:
    AnnonomouslyYours (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Aug 01 2001
    Bring on the T-shirts!!
  • From:
    Pringles (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Aug 01 2001
    Ok, so is it a legal issue when someone who writes a crap diary comes out and says they are me???
  • From:
    Jayne (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Aug 01 2001
    To DearDiary Creaters:

    THANK YOU for this beautiful site. It's truly the bestest one on the web and I am delighted to be a part of it - Keep up the good work.

    From - the rest of us.
    ~jayne~
  • From:
    Firefly4885 (Legacy)
    On:
    Fri Aug 03 2001
    I'd like to say that I, too, like the Unauthenticated thing, because my friends sometimes drop by and leave a comment, and most of the time, if they make a name and don't use it for a while, they forget what it was, or what the password was. They will only comment like once in a blue moon. But, if it's easier for you to take off the Unauthenicated, you do it. It is your idea, your brain child.

    You do what will make it more fun for you, besides make it a pay-only site. :o) Hopefully by the time it comes to being a pay-only site, I might be able to afford it! :o) Or, at least be moved out enough so I can do that.

    And I will say THANK YOU for having this site be avalible to those who like to keep records of thier days in an easy access site. I know I've lost many of my written diaries, and now if I leave my diary at home, I can update it from anywhere (I would, I'm an addict now).

    So, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! :o)

    Later Daze~
    ~*Firefly*~